@ Marketers of Video Games: How Much is The Massive Gold 45 Revolver/Ideas Have Consequences/Moral Premise Buzz Worth?

Below, please find just a few of the links to the unprecedented, massive, and completely unfunded buzz the Gold 45 Revolver/Ideas Have Consequences/Moral Premise technology is generating.

Imagine when the first game is released and that first fanboy

Dr. Elliot McGucken, Blogger

July 17, 2009

19 Min Read

Below, please find just a few of the links to the unprecedented, massive, and completely unfunded buzz the Gold 45 Revolver/Ideas Have Consequences/Moral Premise technology is generating.

Imagine when the first game is released and that first fanboy gets their hands on the novel Gold 45 Revolver which fires Zeus's Lightning in the third act, as long as they have been doing the right thing throughout the game! Imagine the buzz then, as they recount to their friends of the heroic deeds taken in slaying the feminized fiatocracy's fanboy/MBAs, saving the innocent hookers, and exalting a cultural, Constituitonal renaissance in the gameworld!

@brokentoys.org:

http://brokentoys.org/2009/07/15/for-the-love-of-ayn-rand-do-not-ever-quote-marx-or-the-world-will-perish-in-fire/comment-page-4/#comment-31003 "What the hell is a fanboy mba?" -- JuJutsuSteve Chiavelli

8:19 pm on July 16th, 2009

"Quickly turning into one of the all-time great LtM / Broken Toys threads. Too funny."

Where's Kabul? It seems The Gold 45 Revolver is a big hit there! http://gold45revolver.com

http://paulpajo.com/2009/07/16/system-and-method-for-creating-exalted-video-games-and-virtual-realities-by-elliot-mcgucken/ "

“… 6. The method in claim 1 where said ideas spread like viruses, by being spoken, written, or disseminated in some other manner, transforming characters who come in contact with said ideas into vampires, zombies, or other forms of monsters, and where said vampires, zombies, and monsters may be saved or converted back to normal by coming in contact with ideas that oppose the ideas that made them vampires, zombies, and other forms of monsters…"

A Video Game Wherein Ideas Have Consequences

Imagine a video game where "ideas have consequences," with flowcharts like this one:

http://incentives-matter.blogspot.com/2009/07/video-game-wherein-ideas-have.html

Yes--I have kept my ideas on paper, as I think that the novel ideas are so unique and powerful that they can generate quite some excitement on their own. Also, I would think that a major corporate entity would perceive vast value in this, as well as in the novel game types I am proposing. I was waiting for the community to pick up on my ideas, and that has happened these past two months, independent of my actions, other than setting them down in the first place in the form of patent applications.

All of a sudden people started talking about this patent and the novel game types it proposes:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=aAuzAAAAEBAJ&dq=exalted&as_psra=1&as_psra
=1

Over at the Something Awful forums, a Bethesda employee stated:

"This may be the first time in history that, rather than blaming video games as the root of society's problems, they're being blamed for NOT being the solution."

And I answered:

Yes! That's what I'm saying! There's a vast opportunity for epic, exalted art which inpsires the soul!

And videogames can lead the way with a paradigm shift that both a) leads to deeper storyteling and b) exalts classical ideals and heroic idealism.

And so, sensing I was a bit ahead of my time after trying to explain it to some MBAs at major gaming companies, I buried it all in a patent or two. It was as if they were against both a)making money and b) exalting art and culture.

So I figured, if that's the way they wanted it, then that's the way they'd get it--they'd come to me."

--http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3143589&userid=0&perpag
e=40&pagenumber=12

http://gold45revolver.com/

Such natural buzz is worth millions, especially when it is based on simple, innovative technologies and design concepts that could easily be added to existing game engines, with far-ranging consequences and new gameplay mechanics, resulting in newfound, superior educational and commercial opportunities:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366448
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/8859.aspx

http://libertariangames.blogspot.com/

"a fallout 3 mod based on this shit would be boss as fuck."
"What’s scary, for me, is that this might be exactly what gamers want." --onelastcontinue.com
http://www.onelastcontinue.com/9136/vampire-zombie-communist-hookers-patent-it/
"What scares me most is I agree with the core pillars of what you are saying." --http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4061/dramatic_play.php

@SIMDYNASTY: "I didn't bother reading it, but my friend (who found it) said "did you notice he quotes the Declaration of Independence, Gandhi and then talks about Clint Eastwood and Eminem?"" --simdynasty.com
"That thing is the proverbial gift that keeps on giving." --simdynasty.com
"Fuck! I actually have to come back and read this later as it will take too long right now. Fucking hell though!"
@TWITTER: Wow! Most amazing videogame patent ever. Save the earth from communism by not shooting the hooker! 120page WIN http://tinyurl.com/savehooker --http://twitter.com/DenUngeHerrHolm

"actually a fallout 3 mod based on this shit would be boss as fuck. you could totally do it, you fight the communist chinese ghouls and use speech trees to save the wasteland from collectivism" --perianwyr http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3143589&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=9

"All of us who have been struggling to work out how to make meaningful games and interactive narratives can rest easy. The problem has been solved." --http://wordsonplay.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/system-and-method-for-creating-exalt
ed-video-games-and-virtual-realities-wherein-ideas-have-consequences/

@TEAMXBOX
VIDEO GAME IDEA OF THE CENTURY!
forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=623861
"Video Game Idea of the Century!" --Garp
"This would be the most abstract game ever. I'd play it." --Dutch
"That game would be so different that it would have to be good. I'd definitely play it!" --Z A C K
"I'd play it." --Bleeding Black

"here is my concept art for a communist zombie please hire me to make your video game "
--http://img0841.paintedover.com/uploads/0841/chinese_remnant_sergeant.jpg --perianwyr
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3143589&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=10

@NEOGAF
THIS IS THE GREATEST VIDEOGAME PATENT I HAVE EVER READ:
www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366448
"This is the greatest videogame patent I've ever read." --EmCeeGramr
"I think this guy has golden humour." --Foxspirit
"Do a Google search on Dr. Elliot McGucken, the dude who filed for the patent. It will blow your mind." --Zealous D.
"That's awesome." --Tentacle
"Is this a patent or the insane ratings of mad man?" --speculawyer
"This thread is so full of win I hardly know what to do with it."
"Each line, I keep thinking, 'This is the funniest shit ever.' And then I read another line, and...HOW DOES IT KEEP GETTING BETTER?" --alistairw
"Can you imagine having the guy as your physics professor?"
"Thread is amazing, though. I can't help but hope that he's somehow trolling the patent system...it must be amazing to be a patent worker trying to review it. "And then the player must choose to not quote Marx, thus exalting his classical soul?!""

@I LOVE MANCHESTER MUSIC (IN THE UK)
"Fuck! I actually have to come back and read this later as it will take too long right now. Fucking hell though!"
http://www.ilovemanchestermusic.co.uk/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t8875.html

@SIMDYNASTY.COM
"THE BEST THING TO EVER COME OUT OF MY JOB!"
http://forum.simdynasty.com/viewthread.php?tid=215205
""One man with a gun can control 100 without one. I will suck your blood. Sounds fun. "
"the name is "System and method for creating exalted video games and virtual realities wherein ideas have consequences its part of public record, the publication number is 20090017866. Put that number into google and it shows up. The free patent places online generally have the description, but none of the images (which are all similar flow charts). I didnt bother reading it, but my friend (who found it) said "did you notice he quotes the Declaration of Independence, Gandhi and then talks about Clint Eastwood and Eminem?" "

@GAMASUTRA:
"You are clearly a very intelligent, self-driven, inspired and passionate person with vision. What scares me most is I agree with the core pillars of what you are saying. That said some of your flowcharts kill me, I almost died laughing today both from your patent and the Neogaf thread. "When the worst student is told about the way he laughs out loud; if he did not laugh, it would not be good enough to be the way." -Lao Tzu

I admire you for your boldness. Honestly don't think your patent is enforceable, but if you are looking to develop work in the multi-threaded vain your work suggests, you are certainly creating a lot of buzz to leverage. You've managed to steer this thread in a different direction..." --Stephen Dinehart
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4061/dramatic_play.php#comments

@GAMASUTRA:
Ranger, I was not aware of that work, and many of the ideas that I am trying to work out are in there. However, I have a fundamental beef with some parts of it, such as the uselessness of the Hero's Journey as a narrative structure, the fact that it is a method, not a story, and the fact that it is about game implementation rather than story creation. On the other hand, if such a system ever actually sees the light of day, it would be the perfect tool for creating truly epic interactive stories. My other beef is its generality; I can see three generations of academic debate over just one of the 21 statements: "The method in claim 1 where the said ideas are based upon the pivotal plot points of the great books and classics." --Jeff Spock
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/JeffSpock/20090625/2134/What_Is_A_Good_Game_Story
.php

@SOMETHINGAWFUL:
"Why couldn't there be a version where, in order to win, you must distribute Marx, Bakunin, and Kropotkin, creating solidarity among the prostitutes, leading to rebellion against the pimps and the establishment of a prostitute's union?"
--http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3143589&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=8

"LF: where the character can battle for said ideas that are based upon classical moral and economic principles of famous philosophers" --Total Hell --http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3143589&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=8

"dude this is pretty interesting i hope you keep posting around here for a while" --Jay B. Bulworth --http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3143589&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=9

"mcgucken i would totally buy the shit out of your game " --Goatstein

"One of the reasons Spore fell flat is that it forgot to incorproate the mechanisms which separate humanity from the rest of the universe--our moral soul's natural, exalted longing for truth, beauty, and justice--the fruits of epic storytelling and exalted mytholgies." --Dr. E

"You, sir, are fascinating. So much so that I'm not sure where to start." --Hayt, http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3143589&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=9

@AMAZON:
Publius says:
"I'd probably plop down $45 bucks for your band of revolutionaries versus Marxist zombies shoot-em-up/philosophize-em-up video game."
--http://www.amazon.com/New-Libertarian-Video-Game-Patent/forum/Fx1LHCC8HH8X3OO/Tx
37RQ60U78VZMY/1/ref=cm_cd_dp_tft_tp?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books&asin=1416562850&sto
re=books

"EA has been struggling to develop new hits to bolster its lineup of reliable sequels to games like the John Madden football series. The company said in late September that it had sold to retailers roughly two million copies of Spore, an ambitious evolution-themed PC game, but it is not clear if Spore was a hit or a profitable game." --http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/arts/television/10arts-VIDEOGAMECRE_BRF.html

"The company also has been under pressure from investors and game makers to come up with creative new game franchises, and critics say it has struggled to do so. The somewhat more iconoclastic Take-Two publishing house was seen by some investors as a union that could bolster Electronic Arts' creative efforts." --http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/technology/18iht-19game.15401246.html

Well, why not incorporate ideas that have consequences and open the floodgates for billions in revenue and a new generation of games?

@EEGRA:
http://www.eegra.com/pages/show/title/31_05_2009_Sunday_Sundries___quot_NPC1_bec
omes_vampire_communist_quot_/
Sunday Sundries: "NPC1 becomes vampire/communist" "A video game method and system for creating games where ideas have consequences, incorporating branching paths that correspond to a player's choices, wherein paths correspond to decisions founded upon ideals, resulting in exalted games with deeper soul and story, enhanced characters and meanings, and exalted gameplay." Includes a communist vampire.

Yes--building a prototype will happen in a natural manner, and probably soon, though I am patient!

Soon we will be able to walk into Best Buy & pick up such novel games incorproating the Gold 45 Revolver/Ideas Have consequences/Moral Premise technologies!

There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things. For the reformer has enemies in all those who profit by the old order, and only lukewarm defenders in all those who would profit by the new order, this luke-warmness arising partly from fear of their adversaries … and partly from the incredulity of mankind, who do not truly believe in anything new until they have had actual experience of it. – Niccolo Machiavelli

@brokentoys.org:

http://brokentoys.org/2009/07/15/for-the-love-of-ayn-rand-do-not-ever-quote-marx-or-the-world-will-perish-in-fire/comment-page-4/#comment-31003

"What the hell is a fanboy mba?" -- JuJutsu

Steve Chiavelli
8:19 pm on July 16th, 2009

"Quickly turning into one of the all-time great LtM / Broken Toys threads. Too funny."

Ravious
2:04 pm on July 15th, 2009 -- "This is so funny. I wish I could say more, but I can’t. Thanks for making my (and a few other’s) day."

MCM
1:00 pm on July 15th, 2009

"As a lawyer and a gamer, reading this ruined my entire day."

"I was going to complain about the implication that “quoting classics” should be equivalent to “thinking” – I’d rather people try to stumble through their *own* thought process rather than just indexing the proper optimized pithy quote.

But then I played Gerry’s Quest. All this, the patent application and all, ties beautifully into that masterful work. If one were to encounter Gerry’s Quest on its own, one would go WTF and dismiss it. And if one were to encounter this particular insanity on its own, one would go “timecube” and dismiss it. But together? Art is made. Social commentary is achieved. Society progresses, and the world doesn’t fall to serfdom." --Brask Mumei

"But I do agree with him on one thing. If you see a commie woman, you should try to convert her using morals and philosophy. But if she turns into a vampire, you gotta bust a cap off in her ass." --John Arras

"Oh god. Lets hope the good doctor never multiplies. 1 is more then enough. Just imagine the damage 3 could do. "

"If I were your shoes, I’d call my primary care provider and ask for a psychiatric evaluation. Whether they find anything or not, it’s always a good idea to touch base with qualified professionals in the field, and not just people you date or meet on a website."

"We Fly Spitfires
9:54 am on July 17th, 2009

The cowgirl chick is hot.

That’s all I learnt from this post " --http://brokentoys.org/2009/07/15/for-the-love-of-ayn-rand-do-not-ever-quote-marx-or-the-world-will-perish-in-fire/comment-page-4/#comment-31001

@John Arras:

You don’t understand, you don’t argue with that. That’s pure net.crazy, that’s like the guy on IRC that argues about zeropoint physics or cold fusion. You really have to check out his webpage and blog to get the true impact of the insanity. His web pages is nothing but quotes from classic authors and bandwidth-killing pictures of this one hot girl wearing a swimsuit mostly and posing. Either he is God level-awesome and doing this as an insane stunt, or he needs medication.

Look at this little gem from a blog comment reply:

“Alone our lone rider stands in the thundering downpour, as the lightning reveals the grotesque swarm–the horror of their collective countenance is only trumped by the screeching words. Alone he stands, with his 45; and if he has done the right thing throughout, legend has it that the 45 will glow gold and shoot Zeus’s lighting, slaying the hundreds, if not thousands of rough Vampire/Communist/Zombie beasts who slouch his way, screaming, distorting the words/slogans of the declining fiatocracy in a most demonic manner.

See? There are billions of dollars $$$$ in the novel, emotional, exalting gameplay alone. I know you can feel it deep in your bones. You *want* to hold that Gold 45 Revolver. Or you want to obliterate it and that lone rider. But either way, you know you *have* to play the game. That will be $69.95 for the collector’s edition, complete with a metal box. For $179.95, you will also get a life-like Gold 45 Revolver replica, based on the single-action Colt .45–the Peacemaker Smokewagon–the Judge Colt and His Jury of Six.”

or even better, in the same thread:

“Imagine you are standing in Best Buy. There are two versions of Gears of War. In one, the Locust Horde can be reformed and brought over to your side by quoting excerpts from the US Constitution–by engaging in dialogue–and where, in order to win, you are going to need to win their minds/hearts and souls. In the other version, you can only shoot them in campaign after campaign. Which would you buy?”

Thank you, Lum, for posting this, this is some fine insanity. You wonder what his students at pepperdine must endure."

--http://brokentoys.org/2009/07/15/for-the-love-of-ayn-rand-do-not-ever-quote-marx-or-the-world-will-perish-in-fire/comment-page-4/#comment-31001

--http://www.metafilter.com/83274/Would-you-give-this-man-125000

"Fiatocracies have the amazing ability to exalt groupthinkers to unheralded heights, and suddenly string theorists are physicists, feminists are poets, and soulless men who never read nor reference the Great Books are university presidents yada yada grant proposald replete with buzzwords such as "green energy", "smaller carbon footprint", and "social entrepreneurship". Many of them are women, who have been told that men robbed them of the right to create airplanes, electricity, Shakespeare's works, the lightbulb, powered flight, artificial retinas, computers and relativity; and they are getting their revenge by creating fiat bureaucracies which exalt and profit off the 50% divorce rate and the war between the sexes that destroyed the classic American family... You would think they would thak the men for doing all the work all those years, but the genius of feminism is that it criminalizes the creator... 'Ths another reason they don't want the young students reading Homer's Odyssey and witnessing the feminine dangers of Calypso, the Sirens, Circe (sic.), and Agamemnon's wife.

Followed by a sentence on how this is responsible for the supplantation of the virtuous femininity of Grace Kelly and Audrey Hepburn with the likes of Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan.

That is a goldmine of crazy right there." --http://www.metafilter.com/83274/Would-you-give-this-man-125000

"Fiatocracies have the amazing ability to exalt groupthinkers to unheralded heights..."

Yeah, pretty much that.
posted by ryoshu at 10:40 AM on July 15 [+] [!] ----http://www.metafilter.com/83274/Would-you-give-this-man-125000

I always wondered what would happen if Lew Rockwell became a game designer.
posted by ryoshu at 10:17 AM on July 15 [1 favorite +] [!]

--http://www.metafilter.com/83274/Would-you-give-this-man-125000

Quote Lenin. >> It Is Pitch Black. You Are Likely To Be Eaten By The State.